2: Re: Download An Archive (response to 1)
Posted by Joe Oldak on

I can't think of an amazingly great reason to need this. Perhaps the ability to download an archive (i.e., zip file) of a folder is not useful.

It is probably there really as a legacy feature that was maybe considered useful in the past.

There is no particular value in you downloading them as a backup, unless you feel you really want a copy of all the files!

I would be happy to remove this feature, unless anyone here finds it particularly useful!?

Thanks!

Joe

 

3: Re: Download An Archive (response to 2)
Posted by Felix on

Hi Joe,


Is this about the "Our Files" application? if so:


At Tewin Village we so still use the "download and archive" feature every month to keep a backup of folders of minutes. We have had to reload the whole set of minutes a few times, when the admin who upleads the minutes has had a fumble, and managed to delete all the folders.


We would be quite happy for only admins to see this feature. Or if is there another way to reinstate folders, please let me know.


Thanks,


Felicia

4: Re: Download An Archive (response to 2)
Posted by Alan-Parry (Euphonix Admin). on

Hi Joe,

Never thought much about this option.  I'd be in favour of its removal, on the basis that if we every wanted something restored we could send you a message and hopefully you'd be able to restore the data.

On an associated point, this only came about because one of my members was using the facility to capture a number of files (in this case "MP3" format, but it could have been a pdf or word).  I am sure that this facility was never intended for this purpose, but it was spotted by someone who decided to investigate.  I only got involved with e-voice in 2018, so I'm not sure of its original purpose.  I presume that it was a legacy issue when the system was designed and local admins backed up their data.  

There is obviously a need to be able to download files.  How easy would it be to have a download file option (button?) to a PC, tablet or other mobile device?

Regards

Alan

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Posted by Alan-Parry (Euphonix Admin). on

Joe,

Picking up on a comment in your reply, does it mean that if someone other than a local administrator downloading a zip folder will/may also capture any hidden folders that may or may not contain sensitive information in files within these folders?  We use some folders that are only visible to admins or nominated committee members with sensitive information (e.g. records of meetings).  So for all intents and purposes they are not visible to others within the organisation.  If any user can download a folder (including the overall files folder) to an external zip-folder that has "hidden" sub-folders will they be able to discover this hidden information whether that was their original intention or not?

In which case either remove the facility completely from across the board or restrict its use to local administrators (with separate controlled passwords) if other users still want it.

Regards

Alan

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Posted by Alan-Parry (Euphonix Admin). on

Hi Joe,

I've just returned from a rehearsal and it appears that more than 1 person has been using the Archive facility to download, in bulk, music (mp3) files.  People already download pdf files, but there is a particular issue with being able to download other file types.  This problem has only now come to light because one of the MP3 music files had a question-mark in the title, and being a special character caused the issue, otherwise I would have been none the wiser.

Can I suggest that the download Archive folder is a permission set locally (and could perhaps re-named bulk download).  So, whilst the top level folder and those below it have the archive facility retained for local admins, non-admins would only be permitted to bulk download files only if local admins allowed it.  A variation on this approach which would seem to be more complicated would be for local admins to have the facilty of a tick-box linked to each visible file in a folder to create a download button/link (although for pdf files this wouldn't be necessary). 

There is already a means to download things like music files.  But this means using a PC with the mouse by right-clicking and then saving the target.  There maybe a means to save a MP3 file to a tablet or mobile but I have not discovered how this can be managed.  So from my perspective this only works for PCs and if you don't have a PC then other options need to be provided.

I'd be interested to hear what other users think on the issue and perhaps we can talk about it at our February Zoom meeting before any changes are made.

Regards

Alan

6: Re: Download An Archive (response to 2)

Hi Joe

Having read Alan's comments, I'm not sure what the implications of this are.  Would it affect the facility you set up last year to hide pages using the Hide from Search Engines option?

Laura